I don't care if they would have locked me up, if I were his mom, i would have pushed him up against the wall by the throat and slapped the sh*t out of him!! He kept telling her to shut up, see, my son would never even say that to me, because the second "shu" would have came out of his mouth, he would get the back hand on his lips!!
I acutally saw this episode of Dr. Phil...it was called "Brat Camp" and the situation with this mother and son was very sad. They had lost their daughter (sister to the son)a few years before and were so overcome with grief that they take it out on the son (the one slapping the mom). I am a mom of 3 kids and believe me I would go balistic if any one of my kids ever even attempted to slap me, but there was more to this story then you are seeing in this clip. In the show there wre other families and it actually ended up being the parents that needed to do things different in their parenting skills and Dr. Phil was coaching them and they were actually a group of good kids.
That's what I figured! I hope the rest of the pp will read this comment.
Yeah, When I Saw This, I was just in shock, but when it came down to it, that kid looked like he was suffering from something more emotional. And being in that position of frustration, it's not easy trying to keep your cool when the adults around you just shut you off like that.
Thank you for commenting and telling the whole story. I knew she wasnt parenting him right for him to even think it was okay to talk to her like that. I cant believe how violent and abusive several of the comments have been...and they wonder why kids act out the way they do.
Yes it is sad the way the son and mother were getting along. However, telling your mother to shut up and then slapping her, He said to get her attention. I would have beat the crap out of that kid. I have spanked my kids when they deserved it, and I would do it again. Now it was mentioned that they had a loss in the family, a daughter. My In Laws lost one of there sons to suicide a few years back, he was late teens early 20s. They also have a daughter that at the time was in her mid teens, and right after this decided she wanted to leave home and move in with her Boyfriend. The parents, because they were grieving for there son were afraid that she would do the same thing and let her go. She took advantage of the situation and her parents. She is now older and understands what she did was wrong and is back home. What i am trying to say is that your children can spot weakness and WILL exploit it when every chance they get. This family let the boy get to this point because she was weak. Yes it was the parents fault but that boy need to get delt with for what he did.
I hope I didn't ofend anyone.
ARE YOU JOKING? TO THE ONE WHO SAID..."I knew she wasnt parenting him right for him to even think it was okay to talk to her like that. I cant believe how violent and abusive several of the comments have been.....
Well, let me tell you I cant beleive what a judgmental, highly opinionated and act as if yours is the only correct way of thinking shallow minded human being you are. What the heck? You think your so perfect? You do realize that you have a massive charactor flaw right? Let you or anyone say what they will but we all know that comment you made.......really stupid.
You're an idiot. Nuff said..
there are always two sides of the story. its so sad, he has so much anger and hes so young to be having that much too...he needs help
I agree. There's got to be a judgement-free zone here for the two of them to talk with each other. My mom is 42 and I'm 19. She comes from another culture where women stay with their parents until marriage. She can't even sit down with me reasonably because she feels like I'm scamming her into getting my way(that's b/c my arguments are always reasonable and she can't handle it). She doesn't let me dorm and wonders why I'm "so difficult to take authority over". She yells at me first thing when I walk in the door for coming a minute late, even after I've had a wonderful day. I try talking to her. She doesn't listen. I try yelling. She takes it as me being out of control. I'm now looking for housing loans....something I really wanted to avoid in the first place.
Not wanting to be harsh....but you need to get out of your parents house if you feel your old enough to make your own choices. It is her home your job is to respect her rules not the other way around. She should be enjoying her life not still raising you, your 19 and I am sure graduated already? So if you feel you have the right to give your opinion on issues that pertain or change her way of thinking in her home you might need to get into a home of your own. In a couple of years you will understand that life is not about you only, it's about not slapping the hand that feeds you, it's about respecting that your mother and realizing she must be working hard to get you what you need since you are not able to do that on your own. It sounds as if you want adult privileges without the adult responsibilities.
You do realize that she's not trying to live off her mother. The comment said that it was customary for her to live with her mother until marriage... I found your comment to be very judgmental.
"...they were actually a group of good kids".
Yo man, you have been duped by the kid. The kid is smart and acts like he is helpless and wants help. But the fact is that he just like to be 'the boss'. But no matter what, you never let your kid hit you.. EVER! The mom should've reacted more harshly after getting slapped to show this fat kid who is the boss. The mom obviously did not raise this kid to this age properly. So it's partially her fault, and might be too late now.
It doesn't matter if the mom slap the kid in the past. She slapped him probably for disciplinary purpose, which is right. The kid slapped the mom for revengeful or example purpose, which is wrong.
I don't care if the mom had slapped him. This kid should never slap his mom. At this rate, when he is 18, he will treat her like piece of crap. That's the problem with US child raising systems. It's focused too much on the kid and saying they are correct even if they are wrong. (and don't argue with me on this, there have been proven research.. or even perfect examples like how someone said, it's actually the parents fault...blah..doesn't matter.. kids need discipline else they will end up to be trouble as an adult). I don't see many kids respecting their parents in the US, compare to other places like Asia.
I agree with the person that said a kid should never ever hit the parent. EVER!
That is what is wrong with this country. BRATS are running the country. YOU check it out, Look at the history of the U.S.
I was born in the 1960's, and let me tell you , back then , you raised your voice to your parent, you got your head knocked off. YOu lifted a hand to your parent, you got your head knocked off.
And back then, social services DID not stick it's nose in over it. You didn't hear of brsts walking into schools and blowing people away. You didn't have people having to pay taxes out the hind end for stupid programs that DON'T WORK. Children need to be disciplined. If I would have been that mother, I would have slapped that brat's head off ! And then he would have been sent to a home. If I had to pull some time in jail, then so be it.
I agree with you. However, they were being filmed and she knew it, so I think her reactions were changed a bit because she knew that. I know I would straight up beat my kid's ass if they ever tried anything like that, but I think she knew she couldn't, at least not at that moment.
what good kid slaps his own mother
What kind of a mother would PROVOKE a slap from her child? Why do some people assume that the child is at fault? How does anybody know that the mother isn't a terible, awful mother with absolutely no sense of fair play? The boy comes across as wanting to be heard - very real. The mother comes across as wanting to control her child and not having any clue as to what she should be doing. He shows feelings and she can barely summon anything real whatsosver.
If the child were scared of his mother, he would have never slapped her. He is clearly lying.
He never said he was "scared" of her. He is frustrated and enraged, not frightened. He is not lying, he is at the end of his rope.
Seriously??? Mom didn't PROVOKE that brat's behavior. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for that punk to hit his mom-PERIOD. From what I heard on that clip, that kid was lying through his teeth b/c we have these moron CPS "workers" who stick their darn noses into places where they don't belong and he knows he can get mom in trouble. That's the problem with today's kids (brats). They are taught that if they are spanked or punished, they can scream abuse when there is none and then the parents get in trouble. I was born in the 70's and was a teen in the 80's and if I would've acted like that, my a** would have been busted big time! My kids (both teens) are punished when they do wrong by taking their cellphones, internet and cable privileges away until I feel they are capable of having it back. There is absolutely nothing wrong with spanking or some form of effective punishment as long as it's done rationally.
Your comment is so short-sighted and you come across as clueless and totally deluded.
You are not helpful in any way and no-one will take you seriously.
Hey the kid was just standing up for himself, parents want there children to respcect them, but the parents need to learn they need to show repsect to there children as well, im not saying let your kid get away with things like bossing you around or something, yes your the partet, the person thats supose to know better, but what kinda examble are you showing your child if your agressive towards them?
It would only cause them to wana fight back aginst you! unless you hurt them so much they end up afraid of you, then what are you? just a terrible parent that abuses there child, theres an diffrence between punishment and abuse, you should never smack a child in the head or anything like that.
The most I could agree on is maybe at an yonger age in spanking but not to the point the childs butt is brused or something, the best way to pusnish your child is not phyical, but doing things like grounding them, or time outs, or takeing something away they like so they will learn to stop misbehaveing.
This woman pushed her son into what he is now, you dont just wana suddenly one day want to slap your mother, she was the cause of the problem and couldent deal with the resluts of her own parenting. You need to respcect your child and care for them and teach them whats right from wrong.
You clearly don't have older children...Just wait until that child becomes a teen. This child is after power. Notice how his mom shuts up when he tells her to. That is how he learns he's winning. If that mother didn't love her child, she wouldn't be taking him on Dr. Phil for some help. He may be hurting, but if he is anything like my son (which he seems to be) than he takes every constructive criticism personal, deeply personal, and interprets it as her trying to hurt him. It's called Oppositional Defiant Disorder...look it up.
Good kids?!?! All these kids have issues.... The pre-teen girl and the older boy from the mixed family are ones capable of learning and trying since they are a little more mature then their counter-parts. Noah and Ethan are just bad kids..... Noah knew he was going on TV and he was going to exploit his mom..... They're is definitively underline issues with the kid since dad was not mentioned once on these episodes... I feel Dr. Phil did not help these parents all he said was this makes me sick and Ive wasted my time especially after that woman repeatedly asked for help.... Dr. Phil is the biggest exploiter of people so he can get his ratings up.... It's sad to even think what has become of this monster and distraught mother after this since this kid is probably 17 now
Dr. PHILL, I LOVE WATCHING YOUR SHOW. I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE ON. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THIS HOLIDAY SESON........ YOUR BEST FAN.... SANDY CHRISTIAN.
That is crazy. But i think listening to what each other has to say is very important. This child is old enough to tell his mom how he feels and what he likes and don't like. If you listen to the child he was trying to explain to his mom that the way she reacted yesterday in public was not right and it embarrased him. So she slapped him in public because he wouldn't listen. Now look what happens she wouldn't listen so he slaps her. Monkey see monkey do. There is a time and place for everything. there is nothing wrong with disciplining your child but keep your respect while doing it. She lost her respect. Now he could careless and he feels he is the boss of his own body. ~~~ms. blackalicious
Amen! You hit the nail on the head! Total disrespect... if you want it, give it.
VERY true. What ms.blackalicious said.
I second that. That boy would not be able to use that arm ever again
I agree with u i would had fu@#ed him up.
I agree. Plenty of beatings need to be passed around these days. The fear of consequence has been lost among our youth. They act first and think later instead of thinking first. This is a prime example of it!
I agree with you whole heartedly. You don't let kids spank you. You do the spanking. The world has it wrong. Look at the world now since we have had TIME OUT. We are worse off than when we were spanked. If I wasn't spanked for some of the things I did some of you may not have been here to read this. I got back on the right track quickly. It helps to have a stern Dad in the house too. He and Mom backed each other up. So I couldn't play one against the other. Like I said your statement was right on but easy on the cussing. I wasn't allowed to do that either. Nor did I hear it in my home. So therefor I don't do it now.
Yeah!! The more beatings the better. That child's spirit needs to be broken. Someone obviously taught this child to compare and contrast and to make sense of the world around them. They are implementing the tools they have been given: histrionics, violence and emotional hurt to manipulate in order to get the response they want. His mother is lazy and immature in her child rearing and her kid, hurt and betrayed, is further perplexed when mom doesn't reward him for his perfect mirroring of her behavior. He is even trying to rationalize in a doctor Phil/Oprah like vernacular. Boo hiss . . poor mommy IS AN ADULT ARGUING WITH A CHILD. Please someone make note of Munchausen by proxy . . . the psychiatric version.
The smartest most concise statement on this subject I have read as of yet. Or couldn't have said it any better myself. This kid is definitely crafty and he is speaking in a "dr phil" friendly language to defeat his mother in argument. He should never have such a platform, and his intelligence allows him to out-wit his mother in a situation where she is constrained and he can let loose being an "innocent" kid. I agree that his ballsy move of slapping her should have been enforced with a more ballsy move by her of beating his ass raw on national TV despite any consequences. But in the end, as has been said, he is a product of her parenting so contemplate that one...
I love you....lol jk jk no but seriously i was reading all the coments and almost all of them encouraged the boy to be physically punished and i agree people don't understand...there needs to be MORE PARENTING CLASSES ....when will the sickness ever end? hitting or any physical form of punishment shouldn't be allowed i think that there should be punishment that way they do think about doing something before they do it...why should we teach kids to hit?
I am a Christian. My Bible says "Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14) The world today is going wrong because the only discipline for a child is "time out". It may work for criminals, but that's because its for longer than a few minutes! How do you teach a child not to put his finger in a socket? Do you wait for him to get electrocuted or smack his fingers so he knows if he touches he's going to get hit? My children know I'm not scared of childline. They will be beaten for bad behaviour! And if they do it to me in public, no law is going to stop me from setting them straight! We got hit and today we are responsible citizens. Children need to be taught to respect authority! If they can't respect their parents how are they going to respect anyone else?
shutup its ur own fault ur angry cuz u still cant get over da past let it go and youll feel better dont use ur past as a way to blame someone on ur own flaws cuz u cant use her as an excuse 4ever
your mother has isues!you are as imature as that kid!!!
Man let me tell you, I'm with you all the way on this. There's nothing wrong with timeouts for minor misbehavior but kids need to be put in their place, and like you said, whipping is because the child needs to be corrected and the example you gave about the hazardousness of playing close to a road is a VERY good reason to slap some sense into a kid. Not to power monger but to keep the kid out of the hospital or even worse, a coffin.
Kids need clear leadership or they will fail at life and make other people's lives miserable in the process.
I'm probably the only person my age that agrees with everything you just said. I'm 20, and I'm proud to say I got my ass beat when I was a kid. On more than one occasion. I'm still here though, and nothing my parents did ever actually harmed me.
Before I start breaking his body parts, I would call the police to make sure they're in route to the house. When they get there, I (might) be done punishing him (not killing him). Then I'll inform the the officers to take care of him, feed and cloth him if they're going to put me in jail for disciplining my child. Our judicial system is partly the blame for the way some of these kids act and react, but our judicial system is quick to release child predators for repeatedly having sex with babies. OUR U.S. LAW MAKERS SUCK! And so does the sytem.
I WOULD HAVE BEAT THE DOG CRAP OUT MY SON THEN I WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED ,THIS IS THE ULTIMATE NO NO!!!!!!!!!!
This is definitely a disfunctional family. There is no way my child would even think about talking to me in that tone of voice let alone slap me. This young man definitely had control in this situation. As a matter of fact when he slapped her she instantly became fearful of him you can tell it in her reaction to the slap. But what she should have done was to never let it get that far in the beginning. Take notice parents, this is what children do to you when you become their friends and not their parents...there is no fear...anything you fear you will respect.
While i agree with the fact that the child needs to be physically reprimanded, a "beating" should never be used. Smack him. If you do it from the time that a child is young, things will never escalate to levels anywhere near this, and a full on beating will never be necessary. I'm fifteen and my dad hit me once so now i know my place. The mom needs to at least hear her kid out, though, and explain to him that she is the boss. If she did this when he was younger, the kid would never even think that his wants override that of his mother's. You gain the rights of a parent by going through childhood. His mom has those rights.
Kids mimmic the behaviors of their environment. It's obvious that she does treat him the way he says and she is trying her damnest not to be exposed. He got that behavior from someone in their environment and this is the result. He's right. He is not a animal and neither is she so I suppose that is why they are both on Dr. Phil.
Children do mimic behavior but that does not mean he is mimicking his mother, He was acting like those dumb sh*ts of Jerry springer he could have gotten this behavior from anywhere. Kid needs his ass whipped, He even tried to lie to Dr Phil, the kid is a manipulator if my kid ever hit me, there they go to the orphanage XD they will learn more lessons there.
I would still be in a coma and a vegetative state for the rest of my natural born life if I slapped my mother like that. I, myself would be arrested had my child/children hit me like that. The camera crew couldn't get to me in that room quick enough before I knocked the hell outta one of my kids. They would have seen the future after that slap. And no way in hell would any of them be speaking to me like that. He is truly the poster child for birth control, but he is his mothers problem she created that monster.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT PARENTS WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND. MY DAUGHTER TRYS TO GET FRISKY WITH ME ALL THE TIME. BECAUSE THATS HOW HER FATHER RAISED HER...BUT BEST BELIEVE I TASKS THAT ASS IN A HEART BEAT. WE ARE THE PARENTS, THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER...THERFORE WE ARE TO GET RESPECT. THEY LEARN FROM US, GOD FOR BID MY DAUGHTER HAVING KIDS OF HER OWN AND LETTING THEM RUN ALL OVER HER.I SEE THAT sh*t IN A LOT "WHITE" COMMUNITIES. I WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS, NO HESITATION.
I agree with you 100%
NEEDS HIS LITTLE PUNK ASS KICKED AND BEAT....AND YOU CAN CALL THE POLICE IF YOU WANT TO!!!THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL ON EARTH WOULD I HAVE DONE SUCH A THING TO MY MOTHER...I WOULD HAVE DAMN NEAR BEEN MURDERED BY HER FIRST OF ALL, AND EVERY FAMILY MEMBER AND PERSON IN MY "COMMUNITY" WOULD HAVE ASSISTED HER...WOW, I'M SPEECHLESS, BUT IT STARTS WITH THE PARENTS....NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ONE...WOW!